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eloquence all too often leaves his opponent far behind, mouth
best know as lead guitarist extraordinaire of streetdog fame
SEAN will pummel non-believers until they beg for mercy
if streetdogs are lost souls, Bob is their Shepard. His
reconciliatory magic can end brutal meat scrap squabbles and his
analytical powers can slice and dice any average blogger's
He has a wisdom that turns jibber
into jabber. Does he have the Yak to topple Sean?
product of the streets of New
York he's seen it all - but, did he take
tall, gritty, mysterious, a
powerful presence, usually given a wide berth by those all too
familiar with his erratic and often dangerous behaviors,
nonetheless he is loved by all
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Day 1 2006 01:57
FW: World History - As it Really
My conservative Republican, very Catholic,
French Canadian, but otherwise close personal friend, Mr. X, sent me this to
irritate me! So you can read my reply below, the
MISTER XDay 0 2006 7:20 AMSubject: World History - As it Really
Worth a laughLolxWorld History - As it Really HappenedHumans originally existed as members of
small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in
the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and
live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all of
history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The
wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundations
of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the
splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups
and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered, it required
grooooain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle
nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were
sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the
brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and
killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer.
This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less
skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for
the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This
was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal
men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girliemen. Some noteworthy liberal achievements
include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and
group hugs and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to
divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided. Over the years conservatives came to be
symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the
elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass. Modern liberals like imported beer (with
lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water.
They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are
standard liberal fare. Another interesting revolutionary side
note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their
men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists,
dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals
invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the
pitcher also bat .Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and
still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game
hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen,
medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes,
Marines, and generally anyone who works productively.
Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want
to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to
govern the producers and decide what to do with the production.
Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That
is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were
coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a
business of trying to get MORE for nothing. Here ends today's lesson in
world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a
momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A
Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute
truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other
true believers. And to more liberals just to piss them off.
RE: World History - As
it Really Happened
Dear Mr. X,
The historical synopsis entitled
"World History - As It Really Happened" starts out quite well, showing
surprising insight for a bone-headed, pussy-whipped conservative like the
author obviously is, hiding behind his macho bravado, dandy-boy rodeo
peacock persona, or is that pee-wee cock persona It then, the synopsis makes
three errors, one major and fatal error, and two minor yet very telling
errors. Three strikes and you're out, Mr. Whining Conservative Trying To
Re-Write History! The major error? Notice that the synopsis CONVENIENTLY
leaves out the single most important fact of the whole history of beer and
the wheel. You see, before the split ever happened, WE LIBERAL
INTELLECTUALS, men of wisdom and science, INVENTED the wheel AND the beer!!
That's why the split happened! WE had to protect the beer from the idiot
conservatives who would roll the wheel right over the beer and fuck it all
up! True enough, my friend! While conservative JOE COFFEE Cups were hanging
around OUTSIDE the brewery, mindlessly listening to wind-bag talk-radio
hosts, grumbling like the lost little-boys-needing-toys they really are, and
salivating for more beer . . . . . . WE LIBERAL INTELLECTUALS were INSIDE
the brewery, working to PERFECT the beer AND the wheel to deliver it!! Of
course conservative JOE COFFEE CUP was productive in his 40-hour week! We
liberal intellectuals bravely fought corporate greed to provide an easy
40-hour week structure to JOE. But JOE has never been sharp enough to
understand that we liberal intellectuals were working much harder than he
ever could, being far more productive than he knew how to be, performing all
the same duties as the conservatives (going to church, raising families, and
taking care of business) while ALSO providing the science and technology to
make the beer! And alas, the selfish conservatives' egos further separated
their limited minds from true wisdom ,from meaningful insight, and from the
simple humanity needed to get along with other tribes of the world . . .
So conservatives invented war to try and get more tasteless, addictive
"black beer," to feed their pee-wee-compensating toys that they so
desperately needed. Little did they realize that they fed their blunt egos
even more, blind to war's wasted time and money and shattered innocent
lives, callously dismissed as COLLATERAL DAMAGE. Which brings me
to the first minor error in the synopsis: medical doctors have always been
LIBERAL INTELLECTUALS! They're the ones who had to administer care to the
poor victims of the conservative wars! And let's not forget the second minor
error. We LIBERAL INTELLECTUALS in Hollywood got all the beautiful women! We
keep 'em here and charge you conservatives money just to see a
two-dimensional projection of 'em! We got the brains, and the beauty! And
you conservatives are just as mad as hell over that. But we're nice to you;
we left you women of good heart. If only you were man enough to hear her
beating. But you weren't, so ya had to get nasty and fuck it all up again .
. . We liberal intellectuals will now take back leadership of
the US tribe. We have been working very hard, understanding ecology,
economics, and energy flow, and fucking all those beautiful women(!).
Meanwhile, you conservatives hung yourselves with too much military rope,
purchased with debt-fueled Chinese dollars, and pissed off the rest of the
world. You see, although its true that conservatives dutifully drink beer
and work hard for a living, their enormous egos have shrunken their already
diminutive brains even further! Hence, the last conservative war partiers
had their eyes swelled-shut with flag-waving pride, while they drove drunk
and blind through the international arena, in gas-guzzling Hummers,
searching to secure rights to the tasteless, additive "black beer." They
were careless of humanity, carelessly killing thousands of innocents. Far
too many completely innocent women and children died from conservative
cluster fucks. That's wrong. That's just plain old wrong. WE ALL KNOW IT WAS
WRONG!!! Even the god-fearing, Jesus-exploiting conservatives know it was
wrong . . .Ando the wisdom we liberal intellectuals shall now clean up the
mess the conservatives left behind. Such is our lot; we've done it many
times before, while still finding time to enjoy the beautiful women who love
us So the conservatives have just started to admit they're lost. That last
glimpse in the mirror revealed just and stand by us!a little bit too much
truth . .Finally, you conservatives are ready to listen of the BREWMASTERS .
(. . in a Prius! lol
Your buddy always, Mr
Day 01 2006
Psst. HEY MEESTER X. How much
for your son? The boy, how much?
Day 11 2006 07:34
Your response was a tasty classic, a
brilliant exposition. Right arm! Go easy on your friend though. As a
conservative catholic, he is a fish out of water, being from a liberal
country (Canadian) and since in my opinion, Catholicism is among the
most liberal of the orthodox Christian sects (as opposed to evangical
bible-literalists sects). I also hope you're right about the liberals
taking back the US. I can't entertain that hope otherwise I would
despair even more than when Gore and Kerry lost..
-Day 3, 2006 14:13
World History - As it Really Happened
I am currently on
the most remote island I have ever been on--a small eco resort on Kadavu
island in the Fiji group. There are no roads, no telephones and no
internet--except for sporadic satellite connection. The closest
village is a 45 minute walk through the jungle and has 40 modest homes,
more like huts, perhaps a population of 80. The resort has a snall
library. Last night I was horrified to find in that library one of
Rush Limbaugh's books. Please tell me-- how do I get away from
this evil stuff? I return to "civilzation" Saturday, probably
won't have aceess to the internet again until then. Nice response,
vegetarian, Europe-loving, quiche and tofu eating, democratic,
spiritual, peace-loving, and proud girlie man
Your asshole friend is both French AND Canadian fer chrissakes!
Two suspect classes! Rub that in his girlie man face!
He's a good
opponent for you Bob!
Day5 2006 23:21
Sean. He's too good. I lost. I hate to lose! If only the
silver-tongued Mike could help me, but he's lost too, in some internet-free
jungle zone. Take care and
have a good weekend, Dear Friends!
Did you hear Senator James Imhof of
Okalahoma says that there is no global warming? What do you think ofthat?
Day5 2006 23:21
Well, I'd say Imhof has
about a 1% chance of being right if he's referring to
anthropogenic CO2 NOT causing the observed warming.
Well, I'd say Imhof has about a 1%
chance of being right if he's referring to anthropogenic CO2 NOT causing the
observed warming. If he's disputing the observed warming itself, he's a
little bit wrong. The odds of no warming in the 20th century (including
first five years of 21st century) are just too small now. We were 95%
certain in 1998, and by 2006, with another warmest year on record and the
trend continuing in general, it's clear that the earth is getting warmer,
with a 99% chance it's getting warmer due to anthropogenic CO2.
Still scientists have been wrong
before. But don't bet on it!! We should play it safe and take action now!!
We'll only save $$ on fossil fuel if we do!! And gain more energy
independence! Arnold Schwarzenegger is doing a good job with the Green house
gas initiatives. Too bad Bush still doesn't get it.
Recall that Imhof was the Republican
early in Bush's first term that accused environmental scientists of ripping
off the public, exaggerating claims of global warming to get more federal
research dollars. He got nasty and personal against what I consider to be a
bunch of principled 'monks.' Imhof is a loose cannon, and somewhat of a
Guitars - Arthur Thompson, Sean Kennedy, Robert Keislar
Bass - Ziphler
Drums - Justin Hess
Bear West Studios
San Francisco, California
No Bob, he didn't win. What you are
engaged in with your friend is an "ego battle" expressing itself in
political discourse. We do the same here only we use the "God debate"
discourse. As such, there isn't really a winner or loser, just a battle of
egos playing itself out wrapped in political stances and ideas. Do not be
fooled that this is really a search for the truth. On some levels it may be
and some truth relative to the individual's perspective may be uncovered,
but basically we argue to reinforce our own ideas because of our own inward
lack of confidence in them. (Please note: Even this too may be an
over-generalization but there is a lot of truth to it.)
Day6 2006 23:21
I guess it feels like he won the ego
But really, what can we do with these
terrorists? We are so f---ing stuck inIraq now, it makes me sick to
my stomach. What an unwise policy by George Jr! But it's too late!
It's like we have to re-institute the draft, go in there with
300-400 thousand more US troops, and sterilize the place of
terrorists. Sealk the borders, go house to house, and just flush out
the suicidal types so we can shoot them before they strap on the
bomb pack and mingle with the innocents.
There's no political will for that.
War is hell. If you're going to start a
war, you turn all the country's knobs to "VICTORY" like we did in
WWII, so you can fight your way through hell before too many extra
demons get on board. That's how you win wars, not by proxy through a
volunteer military of largely lower class people fighting "on TV"
while the rest of the country safely watches at home. We're so stuck
in Iraq, I'm afraid Satan himself is going drive the Hummer over the
cliff before we can stop the suicide bombers.
I almost cried when I saw your strange
assessment delivered with such finality. What a remarkable capacity humans
have for self doubt and what a profound power it has to return even those in
the throes of their most brilliant epiphanies to the inertial path that mom
and pop hemmed us to with righteous assuredness and cursed wisdom to justify
their imposition upon us while their own momentum delivered them with
excruciating deliberateness into the foreboding darkness of their own
It is far more useful to recognize the
effective insightful things we do than to study our mistakes for this very
reason. I was ready to place a hex on Sean with his no winners and losers
just egos battling stuff because the left isn’t the same as the right. You
cannot afford to accept that you and your friend are simply two sides of a
coin lest you lose sight of the struggle we are vitally engaged in to
maintain some illumination. Sean I think, misses the point a little further
with his wisdom not to be fooled that we are searching for the truth. What
Sean is stumbling around and what you are afraid to take ownership of is
the simple reality that you are the truth, you see it, you assess it, you
speak it, because it seems to you to be the only un-pointless thing to do.
Camouflaging raw greed, and cowardice with phony intellectual thought, your
bud, Mr. Hebert. is just another remake of “The Emperor’s New Clothes”.
You Bob, embody the truth. Your pal
imposes his brute and purposeful ignorance upon the obvious with a studied
avoidance of empathy. Hear it, see it, say it, and he becomes a soldier in
the righteous cause of uniformity and dedication to eliminating anything odd
or just a little too spontaneous.
Bob, you trounced the cretin and this
is no time to start giving legitimacy to these lying republican sons of
bitches because we get a notion that acceptance of a false reality should be
given merit out of courtesy. People love to say that things are a matter of
opinion . . . yeah, there is one correct opinion and all the other
ones, and those other ones are not deserving of equal time but rather must
be targeted and illuminated until everyone can see the little worms squirm.
I read in a porn magazine that to be a
good writer requires two things. The ability to push a noun with a vowel,
and the discipline to dedicate and focus time and energy on actually writing
and completing a work. After years of sitting around telling myself that I
should write a book I’m suddenly realizing that one of us ought to write a
book, and damn Bob, none of us has ever attained near the follow thru that
you take for granted.
So, write, don’t doubt. You too,
Miguelito. Sean, eh . . . . .you’re just going to have to guide
the human race with your subtle simple sizzling heartfelt and truthful
My friend Paul, in Phoenix read the
blog and sends this:
There was, early in the
blogging, a reference to "Bobism."
Many years ago it came to
myself and a fellow seeker. So clearly,
it was as if
part of the veil itself.
BOB is my way,
Jesus is my hope,
Jesus is my BOB Hope.
That part was plain enough
that even I understood.
But the follow up . . . .
God of Earth,
Earth of Man,
Jesus in a frying pan.
And I found this in
the betty bowers website that one of you sent us too:
Landover Baptist Academy
for the Saved
FINAL HISTORY EXAM
of Liberals Ruining America
is a three-part test concerning the Founding Fathers of
this Christian country who are currently being lapped by
the relentless flames of Hell for saying things that
offend this country's more particular Christians.
WHO SAID IT?
right quote with the right founding pothead
1. "Whenever we read the
obscene stories [of the Bible], the voluptuous debaucheries, the
cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with
which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more
consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the Word of
2. "The day will come when
the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father
in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the
generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
3. "The United States of
America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy."
4. "As to Jesus of
Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the
System of Morals and his Religion...has received various corrupting
Changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England,
some doubts as to his Divinity."
5. "During almost fifteen
centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial.
What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and
indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in
both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
6. "The government of the
United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian
ANSWERS: 1 (Paine); 2 (Jefferson);
3 (Washington); 4 (Franklin); 5 (Madison); 6 (are you so hopped up
on Ritalin you don't realize there is only one letter left?)
I must call you on this one Z regardless of the
interesting prose. Style is important but content is even more important.
While it may be yours, Bob's, Miguelito's writing style is better, I know my
content blows your out of the water. I know its an arrogant thing to say,
but I can't help it. While you and I can agree that Mr. Herbert has a
perverted sense of the truth, how is that any different from the terrorists
or I dare say the liberals who also have their own version?
Your arguments only work if there is an objective
truth and reality to WHICH YOU DON'T SUBSCRIBE!!! (A tangent: Have you ever
heard of the natural law (moral law) which is observed by 99% of homo
sapiens. That is the objective truth and reality.
In fact, it is only your opinion that your version of
truth is correct 100%. So now we can go round and round arguing whose
"opinion" is correct or more correct, and none of us possesses the truth.
Unless you believe in objective reality. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE Z! Do you
believe in objective reality! If you say no, you're fucked because then any
reality/truth will do! It doesn't matter if its Hitler, 79 virgins, or love
peace and dope, cause then they're all the same. If you say yes, then one
reality has to be/work for all. And guess what Dan, I'll let you in on a
little known secret (evidently not many people know this). Ego and pride are
very real and figure hugely in 75% of our decisions (wrong ones) and what we
do. That is one of the main problems with the fallen human condition. (Yes,
I used the word fallen-imagine that. Eat that baby!)
Are you really serious that Bob and Mr. Herbert's
dialogue was anything more that a pissing match? Surely you jest, lest I
will have to lower my opinion of your formidable reasoning processes! And
the idea that Bob had self-doubt because he had been pummeled by authority
figures in an earlier life was ....what's the word...ludicrous!
I believe, and I could be wrong, that Bob might have
been sensing the futility of such argumentation. Mind you, not futility in
expressing the truth, but futility in trying to match the arrogance of his
friend (even as I am trying to match yours). And rightly so! It's a huge
FUCKING waste of time!!!! Bob thought he lost the truth battle!?? NO. HE
THOUGHT HE LOST THE EGO BATTLE!!! But who the fuck gives a damn about the
ego battle-"perception of one-upmanship".
Well, Bob evidently. Was the truth changed one iota?
You guys are funny-can't see the trees through the
forest. I rest my case. Excuse my expletives and rants, but it was fun
getting it out. I await your response blasts. I have to go...soccer game,
A most refreshing and perceptive rant.
It rings a lot truer than the polite, pious religious lectures you tend to
give. Right on!
p.s. I'm back in the USSSSSSA! Oz and
And you are the one who is supposed to
have found meaning in life. On the one hand you say we are all fallen as if
there were some kind of perfection, and are driven by ego and pride [if only
it were true - there would be a perfect universe, filled only with Dans]
which are both excellent motivators however I think you use these terms,
like many do, to describe selfishness, conceit, and self righteousness.
About the writing style I was just playin' with you as Sam would say. I
don't care about style and as for content; you can't blow the truth out of
anywhere sonny. Actually, the only thing that stands out from our recent
dialog is that you don't employ a spell and grammar checker. Miguelito is
probably a self contained walking talking spell and grammar checker so no
comments from the PEEWEE gallery please.
I was trying to obliquely point out
what I hope we can all agree upon, which is that we actually communicate
with music, at least those who have the knack, and you Sean have conveyed a
simplicity and beauty thru your guitar that captured my soul long ago. That
is how I know you. There are extremely talented musicians who convey really
wretched, even painful emotions that I can't stand and yes, like with any
other skill or talent, there are musicians who use their abilities to lie
and deceive. Mostly, in these sadly zany times, there are musicians who have
absolutely nothing to say and just like most Americans, are consumed with
self-preservation and protecting their nail polish.
You, me, and Miguelito [and Bob Hsueh]
literally lived within 30 feet of each other during the 71-72 school year.
You played your tinny little electric guitar thru my wall, morning, noon,
and night, (and smoked a shit-load of pot). Miguelito spun "bye bye miss
American pie" at high volume 400 times in one quarter and I retreated to Bob
H's room and played Hearts with Bob Amador and Al Wilcox while we listened
to the Grateful Dead at Harding theater (and smoked a shit-load of pot),
recorded on two reels of tape in November and mailed to me for xmas by my
big brother. We had little to say to each other until I returned to Isla
Vista in 1975 and mentioned that I had been messing around on bass when we
ran into each other at the top of the loop. You made it very easy for me.
You knew a guy with a drum set (Billy Reidel?) who also had some other
equipment like a Gibson SB bass (what a piece of shit that was) and amp just
a block from my house. We played moondance for hours and meticulously worked
out your dinosaursong. Before I knew it, Doughton was there too. I have tapes to
prove it. I distinctly remember the three of us discussing what a Bad
drummer Billy was (and smoking a shit-load of pot) but he was providing the
space and 80% of the equipment.
You called all the shots back then. My
already perfect life was just getting better and better now that I was
topping off every day with 4 or 5 hours of loud jamming. I had no interest
in politics or organization. I suppose you'd been working the Isla Vista
circuit for a few years by then. It astounds me how little thought I gave to
how things happened around me back then. Somehow the miracles kept
happening, Like with Reidel. No sooner were we having that discussion when
BAM! Billy was gone but we still had all of his equipment (including the
I have no idea what you did with
Miguelito. One day I looked up from a bong hit and there was an Indian guy
named Floyd wearing a cowboy hat and warbling dead tunes which were easy for
me to learn cause I'd been to about 60 Dead shows between 69 and then. I
wonder if Mike didn't just graduate like when one was supposed to if one
started in 1971. I do remember thinking of him as a real musician and a part
of the Isla Vista elite. He actually had some structure and even
arrangements. You though were the bong king, more my kind of hero, and you
played the guitar like a babbling brook. No irritating bridges to stumble
over, no talk, just bongs and then hours of wandering scales. Occasionally
Floyd would knock us out of the clouds and we'd come to earth long enough to
run a couple of Merle Haggard verses but then we'd take off again.
I don't think we ever agreed on
anything but I don't believe we ever exchanged enough words to really even
determine our irrelevant relative differences. I believe I know you and
Justin better than anyone else (throwing out family here and those few souls
with whom I've had immediate perfect sex - I just don't know how to factor
them into this one) on the planet. You may be more enlightened than 99.9% of
the Catholics on the planet, you certainly have a better grasp on things
than any of the Popes ever did - but sorry Charlie - all that catholic
gibberish and simple minded overlay providing upper level management of this
truly wondrous and insanely complex infinite universe is just bizarre and
more importantly, belies the true knowledge of you that I'm stuck with.
Believe me, your words would not have held my attention for 20 seconds. As
thoughtful as you are in your attempts to reconcile WHAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS
TOLD YOU IN WORDS with what you know in your heart, you're still just
spewing other peoples sentences.
Does anyone in this room not get that
it was the development of vocal cords and articulating tongues lips and
teeth that has brought our little paradise to its knees? There was no way to
falsify facts prior to this. You could hide, lay in wait, or distract
attention but there was no way to pass on false or fantastic information.
All you could know was the naked truth of everything.
So, as I was saying, on the one hand
you are falling out of something cause you've been "bad", and you are full
of sin yet you find it ludicrous that people may have self doubt. Mind you,
I was referring to Bob's single deflating statement about losing. It seems
to me that to the extent Bob had any self-esteem issues, and all humans do,
it was because of how WE treated him, not his parents. When he came into the
picture it was as an experienced rocker into an established band. He brought
with him all the structure that we might have had if you hadn't done
something with Miguelito. I do not perceive that Bob was ever pummeled by
authority figures although they may have coddled him a bit. I think Bob's
parents must have been quite remarkable, as were my own, no doubt yours, and
that whole "greatest generation". They all got so used to solving everything
that was thrown at them that when it came to dying, they assumed they could
lick that too; so many didn't die well.
I'm have to go without having schmoozed
you or abused you near enough. Mark Phillips just about died a couple of
days ago and may be looking at a liver transplant so I gotta go save a life.
The way I'll save Marks life is by showing him a truth that is completely
diametric to conventional wisdom. That moment when people stare death in the
face is an excellent medium for exposing long unchallenged lies that they
had let guide them.
As for your inane conclusion that there
is no difference between one side or the other, this man says it a lot
better than me - and listen to the commentary at the end
There is no point in my adding more
fuel to the fire, so I won't comment on the substance of the perpetual
Sean-Dan debate. However, I found the Street Dogs history lecture utterly
fascinating and thank you for the very kind words. I would salivate at the
opportunity to get a copy of your tapes of any Street Dog jams in which I
participated. Can you do that?
I'm not sure that Sean "did anything
with me" to cause me not to join the Street Dogs. My memory of that time is
that it was Sean's gig with a bunch of other guys and I was kind of an
outsider who just jammed with the proto-group a number of times before it
actually formed and became its own thing. I never felt that I was really a
member of the group. Also, it had a slightly different vibe than I
preferred at the time, not being a radical dead head as much as the other
Dogs. At the same time, I was forming my own band, Wicked Laundry, which
never achieved the success that the Street Dogs had. I very much admired
(and was even jealous of) the Street Dogs' success and family vibe. That
was what I always wanted (and still want!) --a FAMILY of successful
musicians. You guys had it, and it was good. I am honored to have been a
small part of its history. Can you burn a CD of those jams for me?
p.s. I don't think I owned a copy of
"American Pie" at the time, but everyone else in the dorms apparently did.
So it probably wasn't me playin it. I guess that means you can finally let
go of your anger.
p.p.s. The very first thing I did
after I arrived home last night from Australia/Fiji, despite the humongously
debilitating jet lag, was plug in my Les Paul and wail for
a few hours!
p.p.s. The very first thing I did
after I arrived home last night from Australia/Fiji, despite the humongously
debilitating jet lag, was plug in my Les Paul and wail for a few hours!
Day8 2006 23:21
an interesting letter to Sean. Sometimes I use Sean as a sounding board and
lash out at Catholicism because it seems to have taken my older sister from
me. Before, when she was an Episcopalian, she was more humble, and we could
have talks about religion and all. But now that her whole family has gone
Catholic, she felt she could dictate if LeeAnn and I could stay at my
mother’s house (unwed!) in my mom’s guest bedroom. Now she acts like the
High Inquisitor of Hanford, California. It’s really driven a wedge between
Helen and me. And LeeAnn has had enough Catholicism to last a life time,
what with the all girls’; schools and all. She liked the education; it was
great, in fact. But the dogma. It’s the dogma . . .
Nobody knows the “truth”. Religious people just think they do . . .
the same time, Sean is right about “natural law.” But it could have just
evolved as human society did. Over 10,000 years of living together can’t be
all wasted. We learned some stuff. Religious wisdom has merit. And yes, I
think Sean did a good job with the ego battle argument between my friend Ray
Hebert and me. By the way, Ray did agree that we are “stuck” in Iraq, and
not just staying the course in some macho sense.
Hey Bob [Adamich]
This was great! Thanks. I’m going to show it to my AP Environmental Science
Due to this sudden touchy feely love fest
our contestants have engaged in, the judges are terminating this
blog and sending the players over to the history section where
they can blather, reminisce, and bond, before being sent to
reacquire a taste for blood.
Please stand by as we try to locate new meat for the spectacular
battles you've come to expect.
and here we go
Your arguments only work if there is an objective truth and
reality to WHICH YOU DON'T SUBSCRIBE!!! (A tangent: Have you
ever heard of the natural law (moral law) which is observed by
99% of homo sapiens. That is the objective truth and reality.
Kardinal Keislar wrote:At
the same time, Sean is right about “natural law.” But it could
have just evolved as human society did. Over 10,000 years of
living together can’t be all wasted. We learned some stuff.
Religious wisdom has merit. And yes, I think Sean did a good job
with the ego battle argument between my friend Ray Hebert and
me. By the way, Ray did agree that we are “stuck” in Iraq, and
not just staying the course in some macho sense.
need much clarification on this suspected chaff thrown up by our
illustrious guitar players. No, I’ve never heard of natural law
but I’ve often suspected that deep within us women have a primal
belief in the validity of rules as if they were set by an
outside force, whereas; men in their guts do not understand
rules and simply follow them to avoid conflict. Hence, some men
become scholared in the rules and are great warriors, athletes
and even judges but even they don’t really get it. Unlike men,
women generally display very little angst in their decisions
when they pass judgment on others.
As for “moral law”; it is the pursuit of the legislation of
morality that makes republicans so truly vile. Bob, you imply
that this thing [natural law]exists and actually supplies some
validity to religion which, of course, is a characteristic that
religion truly lacks. And Sean, 99%??! Are you sure it isn’t
98.034%? I would love to see a study delineating human beings
observation of this “law” I never heard of. You seem to imply
that it is all wrapped up with the concept of objectivity. In
medicine objectivity and subjectivity are given equal weight
hence the pervasive (and irritating) S.O.A.P. note used by a
vast majority of doctors when they make entries into the medical
it hurts “down there”
penis has been severed and is in wife’s hand. Her other hand
holds the knife used in the procedure
I too have gotten tangential but, please sirs,WHAT IS NATURAL
Yes, I was in
the process of tying up some loose ends to which Dan
needed clarification. It may take me a while longer
since I am taking undo care in drafting it, time having
drifted into a busy part of the year.
It will be
made clear (as mud) all in good time.
await with great humility oh exalted one
Oh please not
again. It was so nice when you guys were just sharing
music. Trust me, no one will ever win this
"conversation" (i.e., simultaneous monologues), please
ABORT. Before it is too late!!!
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